TW: Bigotry, Super Straight, transphobia, uncensored slurs. suicide mentions, death mentions, etc.
This is just gonna be a post to help yall deflect or refute SS arguments and points, with some articles and stuff. And also to tell trans people to avoid being an ally to them.
Kyle Royce: It wasn't meant to hurt anyone!
Also Kyle: Trans women aren't women and I only date real women.
Of course he doesn't deserve the harassment, but a thing to point out is that Kyle is transphobic not for not dating transwomen, but to say trans women aren't women, and downplaying trans women and implying they are men. THAT'S transphobic.
https://www.insider.com/super-straight-flag-meaning-tiktok-superstraight-ss-movement-origin-2021-3
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/super-straight-nazis-4chan/
https://mashable.com/article/super-straight-tiktok-transphobia/
As trans activists have repeatedly stated, not wanting to date a specific person who happens to be trans is not necessarily transphobic. What is transphobic, despite Royce's paper-thin argument, is not wanting to date someone for the sole reason that they're trans. Essayist and trans activist Brynn Tannehill wrote in the Advocate: "The belief that all transgender people are unattractive to you (when there are some undeniably very attractive ones), and that you could not have chemistry with them, or you religiously object to transgender people, and even when presented evidence to the contrary, is an expression of transphobia."
So many SS claim they are being called transphobic for not dating trans people...when literally 80% of the trans community say otherwise.
"Long story short? If you see someone openly identifying as "super straight" on TikTok, you might not want to congratulate them for "coming out" as a more hateful version of society's default, preferred sexuality. Consider reporting them for violating the platform's Community Guidelines instead."
https://www.dailydot.com/irl/4chan-trolls-super-straight/
"Some transphobic users insisted that it was just another way of saying “normal” and that using a new term was all a plot—either by Jewish people trying to normalize transgender people or even by the LGBTQ community itself. One user wrote of a conspiracy “to make you slowly accept degeneracy … step by step.”
However, the majority of people engaging on the imageboard thought it was a brilliant trolling opportunity and a way to radicalize young men with right-wing thinking. The forums had a mixture of “we must stay ‘nice’ so that they look like the insane and irrational ones” and the usual racist, misogynistic, and anti-Semitic chatter."
Would also like to note that SS say we are bigoted when they can also be labeled as bigoted
Bigotry is defined as by the Merriam Webster:
"obstinate or intolerant devotion to one's own opinions and prejudices : the state of mind of a bigot"
So lets take a peek at some of their arguments and actions:
Label anyone as "superphobic" when they call out transphobes who say trans women aren't women or trans men aren't men or saying/implying trans people are lesser to cis, using "superphobia" as a way to deflect any call out to the movement.
Call them a bigot for refuting an argument that super straight is a should be respected orientation
"You are just a bigot because __" is a common thing said in almost any SS debate.
"Well we have trans super straight people here! We have Blaire to support us" Using trans people who are ally to them to say people who don't support them no matter the reason is bigoted.
Super straight is very much bigoted, they not only are not open minded as to why people oppose it, they instantly try to shut down any criticism or argument on the topic, and insist its valid. Classic bigotry right?
"The trend is framed by some 4chan users as a crooked workaround to excuse and legitimise transphobia, as one anonymous user described: “A person who is ‘super straight’ will not date a trans woman under any circumstances.
“A man or women who claims to be super straight can’t be declared prejudice as that is merely their sexuality.
“Straight people who date trans gender are straight. Straight people who refuse to date trans gender [sic] identify as super straight.”
The vastly anonymous users have lamented how straight people “can’t just be ‘straight’ in clown world” while others summed up being super straight as being “normal”."
https://www.distractify.com/p/tiktok-bans-super-straight
"Kyle stated, “You know, they’re like, ‘Would you date a trans woman?’ ‘No.’ ‘Why? That’s a female.’ ‘Uh, no, like, that’s not a real woman to me. Like, I want a real woman.’ ‘No, you’re just transphobic.’ So now, I’m super straight. I only date the opposite gender — women — that are born women. So, you can’t say I’m transphobic now because that’s just my sexuality, you know?”"
Sorry Kyle but you made a bigoted statement here. With the whole: " Like, I want a real woman.’ ‘No, you’re just transphobic.’ So now, I’m super straight. I only date the opposite gender — women — that are born women. So, you can’t say I’m transphobic now because that’s just my sexuality, you know?”
Why is it bigotry? Its quite simple, lets break this qoute down:
"Would you date a trans woman?’ ‘No.’ ‘Why? That’s a female.’ ‘Uh, no, like, that’s not a real woman to me. Like, I want a real woman.’"
Now, him not dating trans women isn't the problem, the problem is him saying "thats not a real women to me, I want a real women." Clearly implying trans women are men...
"No, you’re just transphobic.’ So now, I’m super straight. I only date the opposite gender — women — that are born women. So, you can’t say I’m transphobic now because that’s just my sexuality, you know?” \
I'm pretty sure the person who said you were transphobic was not saying you don't or rather not date a trans women but you outright saying trans women aren't women. And you could see he used super straight to deflect the statement, and saying that people can't call him transphobic because he is SS. Which reeks of bigotry and transphobia because:
A. He is opposing what someone else says and is intolerant to it.
B. Leave a dangerous opening for transphobic people to cause harm.
I have zero doubt in my mind Kyle was doing this to hurt trans people, while of course no one deserves death threats, he isn't however invisible to get called out. He not only deliberately left a deadly opening for transphobes, he also opened people to being bigoted and deflect anyone else saying they are transphobic and bigoted. There's already a few testimonies from ex-super straight allies like me saying that the community was dangerous and toxic for trans people. There's also testimonies of being doxxed by SS and anyone who called them out on it was then told they were a superphobic bigot.
Kyle, if you are reading this (which is doubted mind you), you need to shut this down. You need to call it out instead of making the shit excuse of "those people aren't real super straight" you as the coiner need to take responsibility, because these are super straight, these are transphobes. You need to denounce this, everyone is looking to you to stop the transphobic train. Stop ignoring the harm YOUR label has caused, you need to own up man. Not continue super straight, you are giving an excuse to transphobes who have told trans people to commit suicide a gateway to call us slurs and walk away from it! You are giving the opening for them to misgender, insult, dehumanize, and bully and harass trans people! Even let them harass their own allies!
I used to be an ally but I left the community for a big readon:
I was given death threats, jokes of the trans suicide rate, misgendered, insulted, treated like garbage, and unable to speak out about it.
I couldn't speak out about my awful treatment because I would be called:
"Lol superphobe"
"Off yourself superphobe" (When told to not tell others to commit suicide they said: "Superphobes deserve to die to deny who I should love", even though they weren't telling them to date trans people, they were just calling out that they shouldn't misgender trans women, or show gore to trans people.)
"Lmao go to hell tranny, get mad."
"Lol you think people liked you tranny? Face it no loves a freak like you."
This is from you not taking it upon yourself and shutting it down in your response video. These people use trans people who are okay with them and put them on a pedestal but until they call something out that has nothing to do with them not dating trans people they get torn to SHREDS. Spat upon, and treated awfully.
I had to go through gaslighting, death threats, suicide threats, slurs, and so much more for even subtly saying "hey, can people use my pronouns correctly?" or "hey, maybe we should also talk about trans people and sexual assault rapes to help aid victims and recognize why trans stealth happens and achieve a safe environment so stealth out of fear doesn't happen." You know, helping the movement and also asking for respect? Instead I get called a bigot and tranny.
Sorry for the long message but Kyle you need to understand you have to shut it down, its helping NO ONE, not the trans people, and not even the straight people with continuing super straight. Feeding the mobs and basically tell them to use super straight to deflect transphobia and use it to defend them using slurs and suicide rate jokes. Its insanely painful to see people make fun of Leelah Alcorn, make fun of the trans people who commit suicide and unable to call that out because they would link YOUR video and response and call us bigoted. This shit is insanely dangerous and must be put an end to.